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wickedbob
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 Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject: default RSS reader |
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Please tell me if I am missing something which makes this currently possible...
I think it would be great to be able to click on an RSS feed link in your web-browser and it automatically loads into a new FeedViewer clip on your KlipFolio.  |
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hmoeller
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:37 am Post subject: |
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You would need a browser plug-in to realize that. This is not really a KlipFolio feature, but it sounds interesting, anyway...  |
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wickedbob
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| Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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What about a "drop-zone" in my KlipFolio where I can drag and drop an XML/RSS feed and then it is automatically added using the FeedViewer Klip?  |
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fdixon
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| Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject: RSS Reader |
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Hi Wicked Bob & Hmoller,
We've thought of putting in a button in the KlipFolio Preferences to 'add RSS feed', but it does not mesh with the idea of KlipFolio as a platform for running Klips.
KlipFolio does so much more than simply read RSS that we are worried users might confuse us with other RSS readers.
The drag&drop idea is good, but might be too complicated for users.
Keep the feedback coming, and we'll keep mulling it over to see what's the best solution.
Regards,... Fred |
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wickedbob
Joined: 05 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Hi Fred
You make an interesting comment:
| Quote: | | KlipFolio does so much more than simply read RSS that we are worried users might confuse us with other RSS readers. |
I'm not sure I understand why you should be worried.
Yes, KlipFolio does do so much more than a simple RSS feed reader.
And, on my desktop at least, the only reason why KlipFolio got there in the first place, was the ability to add RSS feeds through your feed reader.
I couldn't think of a better way of adopting new users by offering the native ability to add/read RSS feeds.
And what a pleasure, to find out later, after having adopted the usefulness and simplicity of KlipFolio into your daily life, that it can do so much more than RSS reading!
Forgive me for taking this as a positive.
At the moment, it could be easier to add XML/RSS feeds within KlipFolio, this was the reason for my initial post.
I am thankful for the current feed viewer though and without it, I doubt I would have given KlipFolio a try and, consequently, space on my desktop.
Please don't see RSS functionality as a negative.
I believe this is one of many of KlipFolio's strengths.
Anything that makes organizing/manipulating data online has to be better for everybody.
Oh yes.. I almost forgot.. thanks for the hard work and keep it up!
"The way to the KLIP is through the RSS." - Bible of Serence |
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wickedbob
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| hmoeller wrote: | | You would need a browser plug-in to realize that. This is not really a KlipFolio feature, but it sounds interesting, anyway... |
This is not true.
Currently KlipFolio is associated with the .klip filetype, so that when you click on link in your webbrowser, it can open the klip directly in KlipFolio.
All I envision is exactly the same functionality but using the .rss extension.
Seems easy from this end.
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hmoeller
Joined: 11 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2004 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| I want to second wickedbob's point of view. Even for me, I learned about KlipFolio when looking for a good RSS reader. This is the most popular pushing technology around at the moment, so many people will take notice about KlipFolio on this way. |
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alexandremarcondes
Joined: 28 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| hmoeller wrote: | | I want to second wickedbob's point of view. Even for me, I learned about KlipFolio when looking for a good RSS reader. This is the most popular pushing technology around at the moment, so many people will take notice about KlipFolio on this way. |
Mee too ... I also would love to see RSS feeds directly into Klip ... it's by far the best on it and Yeah, it does much more ... But there I found it looking for RSS feed reading also ... |
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awille
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Hi Everyone ...
Thanks for your comments and thoughts about how to improve KlipFolio wrt to the popularity of the RSS format.
As you I'm sure know, behind-the-scenes most Klips are already feed by RSS type data. However, as it is possible to read multiple data-formats over multiple protocols, our aim is to make the experience as consistent as possible for the end user - ie: just get a Klip. I know, I'm preaching to the converted here - and really what is being suggested is a way to leverage the current growth and hype of RSS more effectively within KlipFolio.
Within our current strategy this means RSS is accessible to the end user via Klips such as the Feedviewer (or perhaps a LiveJournal Klip - yet to be built - hint, hint)
So, moving forward with some steps in the right direction, we will be bundling the FeedViewer Klip (a new and improved version) with KlipFolio 2.6.
Your thoughts on how to make this better, but still keep the idea of Klips to end users consistent, are always appreciated ...
Thanks!
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wickedbob
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| Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| awille wrote: | So, moving forward with some steps in the right direction, we will be bundling the FeedViewer Klip (a new and improved version) with KlipFolio 2.6.
Your thoughts on how to make this better, but still keep the idea of Klips to end users consistent, are always appreciated ... |
I am still a firm believer in cutting down the number of clicks it takes to add an RSS feed to the Feed Viewer.
The ideal solution from a user perspective would be to click on a link embedded in a webpage and the feed automatically populates a new Feed Viewer instance in my KlipFolio software.
Maybe some way of wrapping the RSS url into a Klip shortcut would generate this type of behaviour, depending on how the Feed Viewer is written.
Does this sound possible??
PS. Thanks for listening to us and responding so directly to feedback. |
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thc_hell
Joined: 17 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 9:05 am Post subject: constructive criticism |
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the way this program displays feeds is original (so far) and i do use it everyday. but it sounds as if you are trying to convince the world that in addition to atom feeds and rss feeds that they need klip feeds as well.
this is probably just to drive up web traffic to klipfarm.
i dunno...
you should rethink that a bit maybe.
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fdixon
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| Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Hi thc_hell,
Given the popularity of RSS, it's very easy to look at KlipFolio as another RSS reader. We know there is a lot of interest in RSS as a format, and a lot of comparison with RSS readers.
In contrast, we view KlipFolio as a platform that can intelligently monitor any remote data source. The universe of remote data sources includes an RSS and Atom feeds.
For users, it means a desktop application that let's you configure each individual Klip to your preferences. As a user, you don't need to run multiple 'one-off' applications to monitor stocks, weather, news, forums, web-based mail, etc ... KlipFolio gives you this alternative.
For developers, it means if you have a web site, web-based application, or enterprise application that exposes information in a structured format, you can write a Klip to enable users to always have the latest information and react faster to change.
Do we want developers to export their data as KlipFood? No. Export your data in whatever format makes sense. If it is structured and parsable -- such as XML, HTML, or a comma-separated file -- a Klip can read it.
Is KlipFolio an RSS reader? Yes, you can run a feedviewer Klip. But you can also run Klips to monitor
Hotmail account
- POP3 account
- FTP site
- Any local or remote directory accessible by Windows Universal Naming Convention
- Google News
- etc...
And do we want to drive traffic to KlipFarm? You bet!
We wrote KlipFarm so Klip developers have a forum to promote their Klips to users.
For web-based content and application providers, we hope that Klips can increase your brand and visibility (your content is always visible on the desktop), enable personalized access to your content (Klips can be setup by each user), and increase click-throughs back to your site.
Regards,... Fred |
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